Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
YOU dont know what you are, you have claimed to be atheist, and agnostic at the same time in different portions of this forum clearly claiming to be an atheist when you backed up an article with WE* (meaning myself and these atheists) then trying to say ooops i meant we because im agnostic and figured id throw myself in there anyway. <---- laughable, make up your mind. I have no and I mean NO cares of what religion (or lack of religion) that people follow. I DO however think its bullshit that you always claim that Christians are trying to force religion down others throats, yet you get on here every day and try to disprove it. WHO is trying to force beliefs here R13? YOu post shit like this just to piss off shooter and whoever else has a strong Christian belief, then try to defend yourself when they say something about it?
Wtf? You're going to tell me I do and don't know about my own beliefs? Never claimed to be an atheist at all and the thread you're talking about, the "we" was as in "we non-believers", that was explained in that thread and hell even think that post too...no slip up or me claiming it was a slip in anything. So you're wrong there again. Because I don't call myself what my parents religion was and because I actually put some thought into my beliefs doesn't mean I'm somehow confused with the whole thing...if there's a belief/group that fits with beliefs, thats what I'll call myself, just like right now I'm reading a lot on humanism and it seems to fit my beliefs more than just agnosticism. Which by the way, that doesn't mean you're in the middle between there being a god and not being one there's different definitions - most lean one way or the other and I was a secular agnostic, which means I don't think there is a god but its a debate that can never be determined...but that doesn't mean there isn't evidence available and that the 99.99% of leaning one way, just that it's something that can only completely be answered after death.

But I never flipflopped on anything as you're trying to claim, as I learn more and more the evidence keeps piling up that there is no god and I lean more that way. So that's bullshit with the I need to "make my mind up", there's no cutoff with learning and changing how you think or what you believe. You're crazy if you think I just claimed to be agnostic just for this forum sake, when have I ever been shy about what I believe on here?

And I've explained that a million times, arguing about religion isn't forcing it on anyone, I have never complained about that on here ever...never complained about the threads/posts in favor of a god is forcing anything on me or anyone. When I say that, it's when they force it through legislation or other ways, not on here...when you inject a religion in a secular gov. and try to pass legislation/rules that unconstitutionally effects everyone, that's forcing it on others. I post mostly because I'm board, I don't care if anyone comes in, I've told everyone of these people if they don't lke it...don't read it or reply, I don't care either way. When someone posts in the prayer thread or when cosmo was posting her threads, did I feel insecure in my beliefs that I had to go in and say "no, no, no...that's not true" or whatever, I just stay in my threads and people come in...I don't see them as trying to get a rise out of me, honestly I don't flatter myself that much unlike others who think I'm directing everything at them. They're more than willing to argue, they complain and complain about what I post only when they either know they have no argument or just don't like what they see. Seen shooEer claim I post this and that to put people down(mostly claiming shit I have never said), but what do people do? They come into the threads and argue, if that was true, why not just stay out? Because that's a bullshit excuse and it's not true, fact is I don't really give a damn about what's said on here, I don't take it all that seriously...mostly it's a cure for being board and gives me something to do, but others take it way too personally. I've probably been called every name in the book on here and most on here don't like me, hell even threatened by several posters, don't see me bitching about it or even really caring. It's a forum and the internet, it's not like I have anything against anyone who posts on here, I've met several and they could tell you I'm one of the nicest people you'll meet and will talk to and shake your hand. Everything is left at the computer where it should be, if I got pissed about everything said on here or cared what any stranger behind a screen thought about me then I'd stay pissed...but I don't, hell I don't even take life that seriously to care that much about what people think.